Irish Naming Patterns

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I thought I’d use my own great great grandparents family to demonstrate how the Irish typically named their children after their own parents and family members.  George Smyth Wood married Amelia Watkins Wood (yes, she was also a Wood) in County Cork in 1826.  They are my 3x great grandparents.  George was from Bandon, Co. Cork and Amelia from Caheragh, between Drimoleague and Skibbereen, Co. Cork, around 30 miles further west.  These were my elusive ancestors that I found very difficult to piece together. It was a case of not being able to see the ‘Wood’ for the trees.

In hindsight, looking at the family tree which was constructed using primary sources  of birth, marriage & death records as well as wills and leases etc., the naming pattern they used adds credence to its accuracy.  It also shows that I don’t appear to be missing any of the older children.  Though there’s always a possibility of younger children as the pattern is not as defined further down the line.

George and Amelia had seven children, 3 boys and 4 girls and it turns out they used a traditional naming pattern for their children as follows:

1st Son, George Wood,                                                named after his paternal father

2nd Son, Thomas Travers Wood,                            named after his maternal father

3rd son, Watkins Smith Wood,                        Usually the 3rd son would be named after the father himself, but in this case, the name George had already been used.  A 4th son would have been called after his paternal uncle.  In this case there was no paternal uncle.  Watkins and Smith are the middle names of 2 of his maternal uncles.

1st daughter, Anne Wood,                                          named after her maternal mother.

2nd daughter, Eliza Watkinsenia Wood,               named after her paternal mother.

3rd daughter, Catherine Amelia Wood,                Usually named after the mother.  In this case she is given her mother’s name as her middle name and her first name was from her eldest maternal aunt.

4th daughter, Martha Margaret Wood,                 Usually named after a maternal aunt.  There being no more maternal aunts she is named after her only paternal aunt.

The naming pattern is a useful technique to help fill in the blanks in your family tree.  However, do bear in mind that it’s not always followed or followed exactly.  And there are many trip hazards such as that of a child dying young and the next sibling to be born being named after them.

Another interesting naming pattern that happens in my Wood family over a number of generations is the use of ancestors surnames as middle names.  This practice helps to rule many search results in or out of your tree.

Jeffers of Bandon

In our digital age many of us take photographs almost daily of everything including our pets, families, food, holidays etc.  In fact we have so many photos that we fail to appreciate the wonder and value of this technology. Photography was first invented in 1826, the first picture of a human in 1838, the first colour photo in the 1860s and the first digital photograph in 1975. It was probably around the 1870s that it became possible for the ordinary person to access the services of a photographer. However personal photos from the 1800s and early 1900s are scarce.  Many families have albums full of old photos but unfortunately many of them are unidentifiable as nobody took the time to write down who was in the picture.

I was recently shown this wonderful photograph of my husband’s Jeffers family taken around 1909 in Bandon, Co. Cork.  His grandfather, Jonothan Edward Jeffers, known to everyone as Eddie, is the little cross-legged boy seated at the front.  Later in life Eddie wrote names on the back of the photo but the family couldn’t confirm exactly who everyone was. However, by putting his records with the family tree that I’d created alongside we were able to piece the information together and identify everyone in the photo. The photo contains three generations of Jeffers spanning 159 years. Eddie’s grandparents, John Edward & Bessie Jeffers are centre stage and are surrounded by their surviving children, children-in-law and grandchildren.

John Edward Jeffers was one of at least four children born to Edward Jeffers, a farmer and shoemaker, and his wife Anne Wolfe of Lislee near Courtmacsherry, Co. Cork on  29 June 1841.  John moved to the nearby market town of Bandon where he worked in and became manager of Miss Moriarty’s Grocery and Bakery on South Main Street.  In 1868 he married Elizabeth (Bessie) Bright in St. Peter’s Church, Bandon.  Bessie’s father, Jonathan Bright, was a shoemaker from Bridge Street, Bandon.  When Miss Moriarty died in 1883 she left the Grocery to 42 year old John in her will.  John renamed the shop “Jeffers” and continued to work in the Bakery/Grocery Trade.


Jeffers bakery and grocery, 86 South Main Street, Bandon, Co. Cork.  Early 1900s.

John and Bessie Jeffers lived on Castle Road, not far from his shop and bakery.  Previous generations of Jeffers in Courtmacsherry had belonged to the local Church of Ireland, but John and Bessie were very active members of Bandon Brethren Church. They had a total of eight children though a number of them died young as you will see from their details below.

1. Edward Jeffers (1869-1876) was their eldest child.  When he died aged just 6, he had three older brothers.

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Birth record of Edward Jeffers, eldest son of John & Bessie Jeffers, 1869, Bandon.


2. Jonathan Jeffers (1870-1891) moved to live and work in Barry, South Wales.  He married Elizabeth Guymer and worked as a Custom House Office. He was only 27 when he died of Tuberculosis.  He had at least 1 son, William Jeffers.

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Death record of Jonathan Jeffers, Barry, Cardiff, Wales, 1898.


3. Unknown Jeffers (1872 -?) There’s a civil birth cert recording an unnamed boy born in 1872.  No sign of any further information on this person other than he had died by the time of the  1911 census.

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Birth Record of an unknown child of John and Bessie Jeffers, 1872.


4. Richard Wolfe Jeffers (1875-1961) was known to his family as Dick. Initially a draper’s assistant in Bandon, in 1899 aged 24 he enlisted in the Royal Artillery Corps (RGA) of the British Army reaching the rank of Sergeant Major by the time he was discharged in 1911. In 1906 he married Mary Anne Cudmore from Leith, near Edinburgh, Scotland and they had five children. Evelyn and Elizabeth, his first two daughters, were born in Leith. Dorothy, his third daughter, was born in Aden (now Yemen) during his army service. Following Dick’s discharge from the army they returned to Bandon where he worked as a bakery manager and where Richard (b.1912) and Gwendoline (b.1914), his youngest two children were born. Some time after 1914 Dick and Mary moved to live near her family in Edinburgh. Mary died there in 1947 aged 56 and Dick lived on to the ripe old age of 88. According to Mary’s death record Dick was a law clerk when he moved to Scotland.

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Birth record of Richard Wolfe Jeffers, 1875, Bandon.  Note, his birth was registered without a christian name.

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Death record of Richard Wolfe Jeffers, 1961, Edinburgh, Scotland.


5. Jasper Travers Jeffers (1878-1959) followed his father into the grocery and bakery business, eventually taking it over on his father’s retirement.  He married Frances (Fanny) Young from Aughadown, near Skibbereen, in Scariff Methodist Church near Bandon. Frances’ father William Young had been a colporteur with the Methodist Church in West Cork, selling Bibles and Christian literature.  Jasper and Fanny had three children Jonothon Edward (Eddie) Jeffers (1906-87), Ruth Jeffers (Harper) (1909-81) and Travers Vickery Jeffers (1911-2008). Eddie and Travers both worked in the family shop with their father, while Ruth married George Harpur and moved to live in England. During Eddie and Travers lifetime, Ireland’s grocery trade went through a dramatic transformation. The old-style shop where you were served by an assistant from behind a counter were forced out of business in the 1970s by large supermarkets which initially opened in the cities and larger towns. Eddie and Travers Jeffers caused a bit of a stir when they converted their grocery store into Bandon’s first self-serve supermarket.

Both Eddie and Travers Jeffers raised their families in Bandon and their extended families grew up closely together.  Their grandchildren also grew up together and were more like cousins/friends of each other rather than the official title of second cousins.  Like their father and grandfather before them, they belonged to the Brethren Church and would regularly have preached there and led services.

Jasper and Fanny Jeffers are buried in the graveyard at St. Peters, Church of Ireland in Bandon.  Eddie, Travers and their families are buried in the newer Church of Ireland graveyard in Kilbeg just a few miles east of Bandon.

Jeffers supermarket and bakery is long gone.  In the 1980s and 1990s Jasper’s grandsons, Peter and Mervyn, had an electrical shop and a sports shop.  They too have ceased to trade and the current generation now operate Music Shops, selling pianos and church organs. And so the name Jeffers lives on in Bandon today.

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Death record of Jasper Travers Jeffers, 1950, Bandon.


6. James Percy Jeffers (1880-1926) grew up in Bandon and ran a successful auctioneering business in the town. Numerous newspaper advertisements announced the sales of farms, houses, livestock etc. by Percy Jeffers, Auctioneer. In 1907 he married Kathleen Smith in Bandon Methodist Church. He and Kate had two daughters, Ida and Nora. When he was only 45 years old he died quite suddenly from acute nephritis (kidney).

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Death Record of James Percy Jeffers, 1926, Bandon.


7. Anna Charlotte Jeffers (1884-1940) never married and lived with her parents in Bandon. Her father died in 1919 and she continued to live with her mother Bessie who outlived her by four years. Anna died in Lindville Hospital, Cork of Chronic Endocarditis aged just 55.

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Death Record of Charlotte Anne Jeffers, 1940, Cork.


8. Elizabeth Jeffers (1887-?)  Only a birth record for her.  No further information other than she was no longer living by the 1911 census and unlikely that she was alive by the 1901 census.

John & Bessie Jeffers (in centre of pic) had a total of eight children, though by the time of the 1911 census only four were still alive. These are the four that we can see in the back row of this amazing photograph which was taken around 1909.


Jeffers family photo taken c. 1909, Bandon, Co. Cork.  Back Row: Richard Wolfe Jeffers, Frances (Young) Jeffers, Jasper Travers Jeffers, Anna Charlotte Jeffers, James Percy Jeffers.  Seated: Mary (Cudmore) Jeffers with baby Elizabeth, John Edward Jeffers, Bessie (Bright) Jeffers, Kathleen (Smith) Jeffers with baby Ida.  Front row: Jonathan Edward Jeffers (son of Jasper) and Evelyn Jeffers (daughter of Richard).

And here’s just one more photo that turned up of the same family though a few years earlier. It must have been taken after Jonothan moved to live in Wales. Perhaps it was taken after his death. Young Anna, who was born in 1884 looks like she couldn’t be any more than around 10/12, so that would make the date c. 1896/7.

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John Edward & Bessie Jeffers with four of their children c. 1897

While preparing the Jeffers family tree, discovering names, dates, professions etc was all very interesting, but actually seeing the people I had been researching has made them seem so much more real.

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Some of My Scottish Heritage – Finding myself at the end of a Genealogical Cul-de-Sac.

How do you know when you’ve finished your family tree?  One example of this might be when you start to find dashes and lines provided instead of names on primary sources documents such as birth, marriage and death certificates.

A few years ago I traced my Scottish Barclay family back to Dunfermline in Fife around 1850. I found the names George Barclay, a ploughman and Catherine Owen on the marriage record of their daughter (my great grandmother) Isabella Barclay (1862-1908).  This week I decided to try and trace my Barclays back further.  Scotland keeps a very  detailed set of civil records back to the 1860s and their earliest census was in 1841.  Prior to that there are good church records though pre 1800 they are less plentiful.

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I started by researching George Barclay‘s family and discovered from birth, marriage and death records that his parents were Joseph Barclay, and Isabella Hunter (1796-1872) from Dunfermline. Joseph Barclay’s baptism record shows he was a twin and it appears he was born out of wedlock as we can see from his baptism record (see below).  So far no further records have turned up for Joseph’s parents, James Barclay and Isabel Anderson.

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James Barclay labourer in Dumfermline & Isabel Anderson had Twins born 20th July (1788) in Fornication.  Baptised and named ____________.  The son named Joseph.”

George Barclay’s wife Isabella had a brother William and her parents were John Hunter and Helen Adamson.  John Hunter was a coal hewer in Hallbeath Colliery.  I’m estimating that John and Helen were born around 1770s.  Up until this point I’m certain I have the right people as there’s enough information to positively identify them and link them to each other.  However, going back further it gets a bit more difficult.  I unearthed a birth record (1775) for a John Hunter, son of John Burt Hunter and Aminta Wright of Dunfermline.  I’m 90% sure they’re the right family as they are also colliers and coal hewers unlike another Hunter family in Dunfermline around the same time who were tailors and whose life would have been very different to the dark and dirty underground life in the coal mines.

Trying to trace Catherine Owen was more complicated.  I found Catherine’s 1914 death certificate, from Aberdour, also in Fife, which implied she was born c. 1827.  It showed her father was a Mr. _____Owen and her mother was Margaret Chalmers. Alas, no Christian name or occupation listed for her father.

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I struggled to find any older records for either of her parents on or on No sign of a birth or marriage for a Margaret Chalmers.  No sign of a death for Margaret Owen.  I tried various spellings of the names and still no luck.  After numerous false leads I came across one census record and a death record for Margaret Chalmers in Aberdour in 1874.

1874 Margaret Chalmers Death

There’s not a mention of the surname Owen on her death record.  It describes a Margaret Chalmers, formerly a washerwoman, who died in Aberdour, Fife in 1874 aged 82.  The sums add up and it’s quite probable that this is my Margaret.  The crucial piece of information linking Margaret to my family is the name of the informant – Joseph Barclay, her grandson.  I was still confused about her surname.  Normally on a Scottish record, the name of the spouse(s) would appear in the first column under the name of the deceased.  When I checked the death record again I was surprised to find that rather than listing a Mr. Owen as her husband, she is described as single.

Margaret Chalmers is a bit of an enigma to me.  Her grandson recorded her as being single on her death record and registering her under her birth surname.  Yet on her daughter’s marriage cert she is named Margaret Owen.  I have found no more information on the mysterious Mr. Owen, not even a Christian name for him.  I can only surmise that Margaret and Mr. Owen were not married when their daughter Catherine was born c. 1827.  Margaret raised Catherine on her own and worked as a washer woman to support them.

Both Joseph Barclay and Mr. Owen were my 3x great grandfathers who lived in Fife 200 years ago but it seems like I have now reached the end of the road with these particular branches of my family.  A combination of a lack of pre-1800 records and a number of  iIllegitimate births has provided a very definite full stop at the end of those chapters of my ancestry.

Storing your Family History

Lets be honest.  As genealogists the best bit is searching for information on your long lost relatives.   Whether it’s passing a dark cold winter evening searching through the limitless supply of online records, or trawling through some dusty files or records in an archive, traipsing through overgrown graveyards or even flicking through the family collection of photographs we are great at collecting information.  All these sources are great and provide the meat we need for constructing our family trees but what to do with all the information collected?

In my case, I have 4 main sources of stored data

  1. A collection of paperwork including, certificates, notes taken from interviewing relations or collected in archives, wills or letters from older family members etc.
  2. My Electronic files seem to take in all of the above as well as screen shots saved from internet searches, spreadsheets and working documents that I’ve used to construct my trees.
  3. Photographs.  There are actually 2 halves to this collection.  Firstly the good old-fashioned printed photographs and secondly the more modern Digital version of it. The digital version also includes copies made of older albums belonging to myself and of any relations collections I’ve been able to get my hands on.
  4. My family tree which I have chosen to keep on ancestry, though there are many other platforms for doing this.

My collection of paperwork and printed photographs are stored in a series of folders.  I’ve been relatively organised with this data, filing it under different family names and groups and usually being able to put my hands on a document when I go to check it.  There’s something about a bundle of paper that demands being stored somewhere.  It sits in front of you and clutters up the desk until you either bin it or file it.  But oh my goodness, electronic data is such a different matter.  Until very recently I had everything stored on the laptop under a broad label of family history but there was absolutely no  structure or reasoning to how it was done.  In 2016 I nearly lost all the data on my hard drive so in 2017 I eventually decided that it was time to tackle this map-less treasure trove of information on my family and make sure it is saved safely.

So here’s how I’ve set up my own system.  My main family history folder I have called Jeffers McCully Family Trees (see the photo at the top).  Within this folder I have created a sub folder for the main families that I am working on.

Each sub folder then contains a folder for every generation of that family.  Below you can see the folder for my McCully family which I have traced back to County Derry in the late 1700s.  In it I have dated and named each generation of my direct line of ancestors.

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My grandfather, John Hercules McCully (1898-1975) had a total of eight children so within his folder there’s one folder for each of them as well as one for John Hercules himself.  With this structure in place, it has now become much easier to sort and save the information.  Now I have each person’s birth/marriage/death records, photographs, census records, leases, newspaper articles, family stories etc. all safely stored in one place that I can easily and quickly locate.

I have also found that by putting the date of a document at the start of each file name (eg. 1898 John McCully birth record), it makes it easier to sort and find.  By using this method and sorting your files by date, you can see the timeline of your relative at a glance.

Finally, my last bit of advice is to always save, save, and save your work.  I learnt this the hard way when my hard drive broke and I discovered that my last back up was almost 18 months old!  I never again want to experience that mental trauma.  Thanks to a very tech-savvy nephew who retrieved my data, I got it all back but now I store it on my lap-top, with a back-up on an external drive and to be sure to be sure, I also now store it on the iCloud.


We Will Remember Them

Colin Davies (1917-1942)


Colin Davies was born on 11th June 1917 in a small town in the Rhondda Valley in South Wales just a month after his father Jack, a teacher, had enlisted in the R.G.A. (Royal Garrison Artillery) in World War I.  Sadly just a week later on 18th June, his mother Annie died of Puerperal Fever, a complication of childbirth. With his father on his way to  Egypt and Palestine, Colin was taken in and raised by his grandparents Thomas and Ann Davies.

His father, Jack, continued to serve in the Army and didn’t return to Wales until after the war. On his way home he was stationed in Camden Fort Meagher near Crosshaven, County Cork where he met a Cork girl, Mary Stewart.  Jack married Mary on 7th October 1919 in Cork.  Jack and Mary Davies settled into life in Wales with Colin and their daughter Jean (c. 1927).

Colin, the son of a teacher, graduated with a B.A. degree but when War broke out a second time he followed in his father’s footsteps, enlisting with the 74th Field Regiment  of the Royal Artillery (R.A.).  He was despatched as a Gunner to their campaign in the Middle East – Western Division.  The records that I have found so far about Colin are a bit sketchy.  I’m not sure yet when he joined up or exactly where he was stationed.  What I have discovered is that  Colin was captured as a Prisoner of War in June 1942 and sent to Caserta in Italy.  When I found a few of his military records this weekend, I discovered that on 19th November, 1942,  after being held as a P.O.W. for 5 months Colin was shot and died while trying to escape  the camp.  Having witnessed first hand the horrors of the front line, those last 5 months of his life as a prisoner must have been horrendous for him, both physically and emotionally.  Colin was only 25 when he was killed.  He was buried alongside 755 other soldiers in Caserta War Cemetery, Italy.

1942 Death Entry Form Military

Colin’s father Jack, was my great uncle.  Colin himself was my mother’s first cousin.  What a sad ending to a such a short life so full of promise and potential.  Though he had a tough start in life due to the first World War he grew into an educated young man prepared to serve his county and fellow human beings.  When he said farewell to his family and headed off to war, he wasn’t to know, though it must have crossed his mind  that he was making the ultimate sacrifice that would ultimately cost him his life.

Thank you Colin for your service and sacrifice.  Thanks to you and hundreds of thousands like you, we are privileged to live our lives today in a much more peaceful world.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning,

We will remember them.

(Robert Laurence Binyon)




Camden Fort Meagher – A match made in Cork

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The imposing entrance to Camden Fort Meagher, Crosshaven, County Cork


Two summers ago I first visited Camden Fort Meagher which is an old military fort situated at the Western entrance to Cork Harbour, quite close to the village of Crosshaven. There are records of a fort used to protect Cork Harbour on the site as far back as the 1500s. In 1989 it was taken over by Cork County Council as it was no longer used by the army and in 2010 a group of local enthusiasts set about restoring the fort, creating a museum and opening it to the public.   Camden Fort Meagher is now open to visitors every weekend from May through to September.

My main reason for this  visit was to see the place where I was told that my granduncle was stationed at the end of the Great War. This led me to ponder how Camden has influenced the lives of many Corkonians. It certainly had a huge impact on my family and if it weren’t for Camden, I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t be here today.


Cpl. John Davies, RGA.

Let me introduce you to John (Jack) Davies, born in 1891 in the mining village of Blaenclydach in the Rhondda Valley, South Wales. Jack was primary school teacher and on the 9th March 1916 he married a local woman, Annie Randle. Two months later, on the 19th May 1916, when Great Britain was entrenched in war with Germany, Jack travelled to Cardiff where he enlisted with the Royal Garrison Artillery to serve his country. He was trained by the army in Signalling and Telegraphy and presumably because of his ability to teach, became an instructor in that area.

The following year, on 11 June 1917, Annie gave birth to their son, Collin but sadly Annie died just one week after Collin’s birth. Three weeks after his wife’s death, leaving baby Collin with his grand-parents Jack was despatched with his battalion to serve in Palestine. He boarded a ship in Southampton on 9th July, 1917 and sailing firstly to Le Havre and then from Marseille to Alexandria in Egypt.   Corporal John Davies arrived in Alexandria on the 1st August 1917, on his way to Palestine, where he served in the British Army throughout the reminder of World War I, until he was demobbed and began his journey home in January, 1919.

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RGA uniform on display in Fort Camden

Jack’s military records show all his activity and movements within the army until this point. I had been told by my own mother that he was stationed in Fort Camden after the war and that it was there that he met his Cork wife, Mary Stewart. Fort Camden is not listed as a post on his military records. However his discharge papers show Mary Stewart’s address on Blackrock Road in Cork City as his residence at the time of his retirement from the Army and this gives credence to the family story.

Post-war Crosshaven must have been a very popular place for young ladies to visit with many soldiers from all over the British Isles unexpectedly finding themselves in this small seaside town on the South coast of Ireland while on their way home from war. Jack was one of these young men and I was told that he met his second wife, Mary Stewart, at a dance in Crosshaven. Jack & Mary married later that year, on October 7th 1919, in Mary’s home church, Scots Presbyterian Church in Cork City.

The newlyweds moved back to Wales, where Jack returned to teaching. Collin was reunited with his father and eventually became a big brother to their daughter, Jean.   Collin, like his father before him enlisted in World War II and was killed in action.

Jack’s marriage to Mary Stewart was not the last of Camden’s effect on my family. Following Jack and Mary’s marriage in 1917, Jack’s sister, Eunice Davies, who had been living in Wales met and fell in love with Mary’s brother, David Stewart who was working in The Eagle Printing Company in Cork City. Eunice Davies and David Stewart (my grandparents) were married in Gosen Congregational Church, Blaenclydach, Glamorgan, Wales, on 25th July, 1923.  Following their marriage Eunice moved to Cork where they lived the rest of their lives in Cork City with their daughter Ann.

So Fort Camden, which was originally built to protect Cork Harbour from foreign invaders, actually had quite the opposite effect on my own family.  Thanks to Camden the Davies and Stewart families crossed paths and a Welsh brother and sister married a Cork born sister and brother.

It was fascinating to walk around the fort almost a hundred years later and see where Jack stayed and also to see their uniforms on display in The Royal Garrison Artillery (RGA) exhibition.  If you get a chance to visit Camden, I would wholeheartedly recommend it.  You get to walk around the site which contains many old buildings and features which are all fairly well preserved and contain some fascinating military exhibits.  If that’s not enough, the old Officers’ Quarters have been converted into a Tea Rooms which must have one of the best views in all of County Cork.

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Irish Granny = Irish Passport

Did you know that even if you yourself weren’t blessed to be born on the island of Ireland, you might still be eligible to apply for an Irish passport.  If either your parents or your grandparents were born in Ireland, you can apply for Irish Citizenship and an Irish Passport.

One of my more recent projects was to find an Irish birth record for a grandparent of a gentleman born in the UK and now living in Ireland.  He knew his parents were both born in the UK and had their birth certs.  While there was no documentation to prove it, he had heard that one of his grannies was from Ticknock, which he thought might be in Wicklow.

Using the information contained in his father’s Scottish birth certificate, I was able to locate  his Granny and Grandpa’s marriage in Dundee, Scotland in 1904.  This gave me the names, ages, addresses and occupations of both the bride and groom as well as the names of their parents and witnesses.  Scottish records provide lots of detailed information and this one was no exception.  I was then able to find the groom’s birth in Dundee, making him a Scottish Grandpa –  not what we were looking for.   The bride’s surname  was Kelly and there was no trace of her birth in Scotland. In order to search of the Irish Civil records I turned to tHhe fabulous website where I found hundreds of Kelly’s born around 1880. Knowing that Ticknock is located in south county Dublin,  helped to narrow the search and lead me to the  birth record I was looking for and proving that Yes – Granny was Irish!

Armed with this information I then ordered all the relevant birth, marriage and death certificates required to proceed with the Irish Passport application.  So it seems our Irish Grandparents are still looking out for us, even decades after their deaths.

Have a look at a sample of a Scottish Civil Record. Here is a copy of a death record for one of my own ancestors, Walter Paterson.  It gives so much information, showing Walter’s parents names, including his mother’s maiden name, his son, both his wives as well as his own age, profession, address and cause of death.

Walter Paterson death register 1883

The following is an extract from the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs web site.

Born outside Ireland?

You are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland.

You can become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, or you can become an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, but was not born in Ireland. If you’re eligible, you can register your birth on the Foreign Births Register.

With the United Kingdom about to depart from the European Union, many UK citizens are on the search for their Irish granny or grandpa in order to apply for their Irish Passport.


Ireland’s Grand Canal: People, Peat & Porter

Slightly different to my previous blogs.  The topic for my dissertation for my Diploma in Genealogy was Ireland’s Grand Canal: People, Peat and Porter.  It covers some of the history of the Grand Canal, looking especially at some of the people associated with the building of it and those who worked on it over the years.

Here it is.  Feel free to have a read.


Out of the Ashes! The Young Family of Letterscanlan in the charred remains of the 1841 Census

William Young



When I started researching my husband’s family tree, I was told about William Young, his Great, Great, Grandfather, who was a colporter with the Methodist Church in West Cork.  I discovered that a colporter was someone who distributed books and religious tracts.   William was a member of the Methodist Church who had a deep and sincere Christian faith.  While he was distributing Bibles and tracts to the people of West Cork he also took the opportunity to share his faith on a one to one level as well as to preach the Christian Message.

Apparently the Young family came from somewhere near Aughadown (pronounced Affadown) between Ballydehob and Skibbereen in County Cork.

The 1901 census showed William, aged 59, living with his wife Hester and 6 children in Templemartin near Bandon.  He was a Methodist and was born in County Cork.  This led me to his marriage in Bantry Methodist Church to Hester Vickery of Bantry in 1873.  His marriage certificate showed his residence at the time as Letterscanlan (a small townland in Aughadown) and stated that his father James Young was a farmer.


As it appeared that William was born around 1842, there was no point looking for a Civil Birth Record as the state didn’t start to record births until 1864.  Likewise, the records I found in the Methodist and Church of Ireland records didn’t go back far enough.  Having run out of birth, marriage and death records I checked the land records in Griffiths Valuation which showed that in 1853 a James Young was renting just over 36 acres in Letterscanlan from Henry Becher, the local landlord.

Going back a step further I checked the Tithe Applotment Books (TAB) which showed both a William Young (76 acres) and a Richard Young (17 acres) listed in Aughadown in 1829.  Unfortunatley the information in the TAB was gathered for the purpose of taxing land rather than recording family history so there’s no indication how William and Richard Young may have been related to each other.

At this point I thought I had hit a brick wall with my Young family as I was now in a pre Church and Civil records era.  Then I discovered the 1841 Census records.  Most of the records for County Cork from the 1841 census were destroyed in the fire in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922.  A quick search showed records for just 97 people in County Cork in the 1841 census.  Not expecting to find any relevant information I scanned through the names and couldn’t believe my eyes when I found 2 Young’s from Letterscanlan.  Bingo.  I clicked on the link to bring up the Young’s page and this is what appeared…


… the charred remains of a census record.  Not even one straight edge of a page remained.  But I wasn’t looking for straight edges – I wanted information and this charred,fire damaged remnant provided it.  The head of the family in 1841 was James Young a farmer.


The next section is not so easy to read as the fire destroyed a some vital information, leaving us with just a few tantalising clues.  The section listing those present on the night of the census is missing.  It appears that no one was absent from the house on census night. The last section was  a “Return of Members of this Family, Servants or Visitors, who have died while residing with this Family  since the 6th June 1831”.

The information that I can make out from this section is that James Young’s mother, Young, died aged 65 in 1832 (?).  His father, …liam Young, died aged 80 in 1840.  His uncle, whom I cannot make out his name, died of pleurisy (?) aged 67 in 183?.


So thanks to this remarkable piece of paper that was filled out in a small farmstead in West Cork in 1841, stored in the Public Records Office in Dublin and just about survived the 1922 fire in the Four Courts I have been able to trace our Young family of Aughadown, Co. Cork back to a William Young who was born c.1760.

The Young line which married into our Jeffers family in 1904 is as follows:

William Young 1760-1840

James Young c.1799 – ?

William Young 1841-1911 married Hester Vickery 1846-1936


Frances (Fanny) Young 1876-1952

married Jasper Travers Jeffers 1878-1950.  These are my Great, Grandparents-in-law.